Baja UPDATE

[fearlu]

Dude, chill out, it was a JOKE! Jeez...

[OliverG]

Great, wondered if I would get slammed, 1st post got thank you from Charlie.
2nd, fearlou affiliates me with Andres, might know him, I'm around for awhile, then threat to Andres.
This is 3rd post, was trying to lighten subject, so many good threads deteriorate.
Might know fearlu, but people who know me would understand when I say, get neutered!
Happy new year, there is always wind new year's day.

No, it's all good here. People just need to use more of the smileys so nothing lost in the plain text... :P

[moblvet]

Mirror.

[charlie]

i wish i went today as the rain was light next to the forcast
iam on the hunt now dave!got new toys to try
might have to throw some ollie chip dip!
so ya saterday noonish or sunday
cant wiat to see big poo bear 25 feet up

[Andres Santacruz]

An open note to Andres Santa Cruz: You are clearly not being truthful with us or yourself. Don't imply that I was endandering other riders when both incidents I mentioned involved jibing without looking back. It's a big playground out there and if I carry greater board-speed than you do, and catch up to you on a similar reach, it's still your responsibility to look around before you transition, right? I ride in very crowded conditions at home and your methods will not work here.

I did not coin the term "AeroMexico" and am sorry for the politically incorrect name your group has been given.

Just to confirm the events at Joe's, here's your quote: "I was happily riding really far out, far away from everyone, as I turned my kite, yours was right on top of mine, you had been following my line."

If you had checked before you jibed you would have seen me before sending your kite back, right? I am very clear on the rules of right-of-way and suggest you learn them as well for the safety of those around you. Sometimes you need to respect the rules of the road, your elders and standard safety guidelines in a sport like kitesurfing, wouldn't you agree? 'Nuf said.

It's like talking to the wall, why would i not be truthful? I am writing on a local bay area forum, and i am thousands of miles away, i have nothing to lose. You missed my point being, that you COULD see me, and were totally aware, and yet you decided to have your kite 3-10 meters from mine, i was about a mile out, why you would decide to ride right on top of me i have no idea, especially when it was so windy and easy to stay upwind. And it was not a case of boardspeed as i ride much faster than you, and i am not bothered by the term Aeromexico, coined by our friends Kent and Cindy, it is actually a compliment, as we jump pretty high, unlike yourself.
Here, elders lead by example, and then they get respect, it is something earned. So that's the end of my rant, i really won't come back to check if you answer so don't bother. I really don't need you preaching rules of right of way when i have been riding here for 6 years and am active in our local associations, teaching, promoting the sport, and organizing events By the way, i was in my country, and in most places you respect the locals.

Hasta luego
Andres

[whitecap]

Best winds, and check out the north coast of yucatan during March-June it is windier than la ventana, and warm, www.marinasilcer.com. But the bay area is nuking at that time isn't it?
Andres Santacruz

Yeah - you are right, it is hard during that time of the year to head out of town, as it is so nice locally. Do you have any words for that spot - or the Real kiteboard hang in Cozumel for the December to February time frame? Nice spot, but bad timing?

I have to say that this spat between you and Dave - and Dave is a bud of mine - is kinda silly. My two kids had the same issue at La Ventana, one looking to jibe while the other was hanging tight a bit upwind. They are 10 and 12, and the oldest was schooling the younger for jibing before looking. Unlike you guys, I had a video cam running on the beach, so I had the whole thing on film. Upon review back at the pad, I can say that both had a point.

Time is short, and the wind does not blow all year - so good winds to Andres and Dave, and I hope you both SEND IT!

bob :P

[OliverG]

Bob's right, who cares? Everyone had tons of fun regardless, right?
At Alameda on New Years Day in nuking winds a windsurfer busted a massive jibe right in front of me without looking and I had to totally hit the brakes and change course. He yelled out, "Sorry!", but he didn't even have to. I didn't care because I wasn't depending on him for my well being, safety and enjoyment. I'm looking out for me. We've all blown it on courtesy or right of way rules at one point or another - we're human.

I'll be down there in a few weeks and I will be on good behavior, though. :)

[whitecap]

I'll be down there in a few weeks and I will be on good behavior, though.

I guess we will have to keep this tread running then, eh?

bob 8)

[Pablito]

I caught an hour or so at Alameda yesterday, and the "look before you jibe" lesson was being taught not by windsurfers or kiters, but by large immobile objects floating in the water. Like tree trunks and boards sporting rusty nails:shock:.

These partially submerged hazards were behind my back when I passed them going out, so I didn't see them until I was swinging around to head back towards the beach.

When kiting in crowded areas, it seems best for both people heading the same direction to be fully aware of the other person,and act accordingly. Any time I'm following behind someone unavoidably (um, going upwind at SI on a flood, for example) I am ready to jibe at the first sign of their kite changing direction.

[OliverG]

I'll be down there in a few weeks and I will be on good behavior, though.

I guess we will have to keep this tread running then, eh?

bob 8)

Yes indeed! It does appear to have taken on a life of it's own, so by Spring, we'll have like 40 pages of Baja posts. I did go back through it and found alot of useful info, though, so thanks to all! ;)