Tips on Going Upwind

[jono]

I just learned to go upwind (at sherman during a flood ;)) and I sent this to my friend who wanted tips. Figured I'd repost it here since learning to do this is so fresh in my mind.

If someone else with more experience has more tips or I said something that is bad form, let me know or just post a reply to correct it.

Overall, it took me about 8 hours in the water to go upwind. Once I could get up and ride, about 4 hours more in the water to actually go upwind. I've gone upwind every time since (when I need to) so it hasn't been hit or miss so far.

Also, having to land at a shitty place like Little Baja with big rocks in the Sherman channel seems to be a great motivator ;). I wouldn't recommend Little Baja to new people, it's totally dangerous even if you crash the kite before the rocks (way before) and self rescue to the rocks and use the 5th line to get the kite over the rocks and onto the grass (crazy 5th line technique). Bad idea unless you are totally comfortable, understand the density of rock vs. human bone and have someone to assist. I probably shouldn't have mentioned this at all :twisted: Sherman is not a spot to learn, Alameda and Bodega Harbor are much safer.

I was on a 12m Vegas with a 158 board (I'm 5'8" 175lbs) in 20mph winds generally. Huge board probably helps a lot, but it sucks wheeling down the back-side of Sherman chop.

I think the key is to just boil it down to "how can I edge harder while maintaining speed?"

My tips (sorta in order of importance):

!!!Make sure you trust the kite and can *lean back hard* against the harness. If you can't, you won't go upwind. Once I could lean back and commit, I could go upwind. Probably would have helped me to wear the harness and lean against a tree or something to feel the harness hold me and know what it would feel like with the kite pulling.

-Water-start and go downwind a bit to get board speed, then turn and point upwind more. Don't try to point upwind straight from the start, you don't have any speed and will sink. If you are sinking out right after you water-start this is probably the problem.

-You are really fighting -- fighting the kite, the wind, and the water. Think aggressively and quickly and act like you are standing against mother nature and going to hold your position, no matter what gust hits. You can't be slacking off, relaxing, or trying to chill to overcome the force of the wind. Stand against it and mean it ;). Growl at the wind and sheet IN so you can lean against the kite!

-You are trying to find a balance between being sucked downwind and overpowered to sinking and being underpowered. You have to ride right in this gap. It's kinda scary having the kite pull you super hard or going really fast the first couple times, just stay calm and THINK faster/more precise to overcome your fear. Make decisions or panic/bear off -- those are the two options.

-Bend knees and twist them a bit forward, turn your heels toward the back of the board and your toes toward the front (kind of like a surfer), and crouch a bit like you are when you throw the bowling ball, like a surfer (not so much though) or like "Charlie's Angels" stance. This should make your hips/shoulders point upwind. Also, push the bar back and down behind you a bit (that gives you something to lean on and makes you twist forward).

-Watch your speed, if you start slowing, you need to correct it *right now* because you are losing speed and will sink if you don't correct it in 5 seconds. It's a constant manipulation of speed, there is really no cruise control at 15mph. If you are slowing, you can bear off downwind to pick up speed, fly the kite in sine waves (I seem to do this a lot to keep powered up), or sheet in/release depower or both. Parking the kite may not give enough power to stay fast and edging, you may have to sine it -- just do it so you don't get too much power and pulled off your edge.

-If the kite gets too far forward (near the 3 o'clock edge of the window) you will lose power. Sine the kite backward (figure eight) on an upstroke a bit to move it back in the window.

-While sining the kite: sheet in on the downstroke and steer upwind more (a bit), sheet out on the upstoke. In down, out up. Kite will stall or go upward real slow if it's oversheeted. You steer away (upwind) a bit more when it goes down to compensate for the extra pull from downward power-strokes, but you end up riding in a straight line (pretty much).

-Put pressure on heelside, but also be aware of the "yaw" (see pitch, yaw, roll in flight) of your board/feet. Yaw is like when you walk, pressure forward with one foot and back with the other (like scissor legs). You need to manipulate this to prevent skidding out. You can edge harder if you push on the heelside and also push backward with your front foot (point the nose of the board higher upwind).

-Push hips forward and edge with your whole body, not just sitting and trying to edge like you are on the pot.

-You will feel when you get your edge in and it will kind of make the board feel smoother, softer and like you are carving. When learning upwind, if you feel this, try to maintain it/go back to it.

-Depower kite with sheeting strap so you aren't overpowered and getting pulled off your edge if you can't hold the beast down.

-Keep the kite at 45 degrees or lower so you can lean against it and edge. If it's high, it will pull you off your edge because of the vertical (rather than horizontal) lift.

-Don't depower so much that you can't edge, you need to lean back real hard and the kite must have power to lean against. If you depower too much or wind drops, sine the kite fast and hard to maintain power. Flying sine is an easy way to control power and adapt to changing wind, chop, etc. Bigger faster sine-waves if you need lot's of power, little slower ones if you just need a little. I do this a lot to make sure I don't fall in backwards or to get power during a lull.

-Spot a fixed point and shoot for it when you look up, but don't get distracted by it, the kite is more important.

-Sheet in if you are losing power, sheet out if you are overpowered. This too is constant manipulation of power. If you are sheeted out and still overpowered, sheet in the depower strap like 2 inches (small amounts do it).

-If you end up in the water, get back on the board stat (but be calm and deliberate). The whole time you are in the water, you are drifting downwind. If you crash the kite, get it back up fast, this sucks you downwind more than simply floating with the kite up.

-When you land back at the beach, sheet in your depower (but don't hindenberg the kite) to ensure you don't get lofted, can walk safely, etc. It just became habit for me, not sure if it's good form/technique. Plus, it will be depowered next time you launch (hopefully).

-Don't think you have to keep your front leg straight all the time, bend it for chop, to get in forward twist stance, etc. Do whatever feels like you should to keep your edge.

The main thing is to edge and remove any situation that prevents you from edging. Just think to yourself "how can I edge harder?" It might be you need more speed, so sine the kite. It might be that you are overpowered, so depower/sheet out. It might be that you can't get on the edge, so fully commit to leaning back against the kite (and keep the kite below 45 degrees).

I think if I see someone who can't go upwind I could probably figure out why pretty easy, so having someone who knows how to go upwind watch you for a minute might help resolve some habitual bad form you have.

Key is to think "how can I edge harder while maintaining speed" and you have to make your own decisions on what to do to achieve that goal given the techniques listed above.

You must know what tools you can use to edge hard and use those tools to adapt to the current situation. Sometimes you might pull the depower strap, sometimes you might just sheet out on the bar -- you have to know what you can do and implement it accordingly.

[adamrod]

one small tip too: depower the kite. a depowered kite is more efficient and flies further to the edge of the window. so, while it helps to sheet in and gain more power from the kite, sheeting in also makes the kite sit back in the window making it harder to go upwind.

like everything, it's a balance.

just something to think about . . . .

[eoverman]

Do you think having a large board might make it it difficult? I am riding a 156 Gaastra and 12M Slingshot Turbo Diesel.. I am 6'0" 200lbs. I got the big board because it would be easy to get up on as a beginner but now that I am comfortable getting up and riding it seems like I can't dig in enough to go upwind.... The board seems a little "floaty" and tough to edge into the water. And as much as I really enjoy the walk up Alameda beach it would be nice to spend more time on the water :drinkers:

Any advice??

[Rascal1000]

While what Jono has said is all technically correct, the human brain is not able to process many independent thoughts concurrently. The net result is that with too many things to think about a student will over analyze things. The process will break down. And the student will over-think.
The key is simplicity. I have a touchy feely way that sounds weird to describe but everybody who has tried it is amazed.

FIRST THE THEORY:

To go upwind two, and only two, things needs to happen.

1>. The your kite needs to be flying correctly.
1.1> You need to be moving fast enough.
1.2> The kite needs to between 9 and 11 Oíclock if you are moving left to right and vice versa.
To far to the edge of the window and you will not have enough power and will sink.
To far to 12:00 and you will not be able to edge hard enough and will feel yourself being pulled downwind.

2> The attitude of the board.
2.1> It needs to be pointing upwind .
2.2> You need to have enough edge to it.

These two factors are actually self correcting and related. If you put too much weight on your backfoot, the kite flies to the edge of the window, and your board heads up wind. To little weight on your backfoot, and the kite flies to 12, and your board points downwind. So the ONLY thing to focus on is to simply think about where you have the majority of your weight. Too much front foot, board points downwind, kite goes to neutral, you start bearing off downwind. Too much backfoot, board points too far upwind, kite goes to edge of window. It is as simple as this.

NOW THE PRACTICE:

So here is all you need to do. Plan on having one run downwind where you experiment and feel what happens when you shift the weight onto your front too far forward and too far back. Try and push the kite to the edge of the window putting all your weight on your backfoot, then try and put all your weight on your front foot, and see how the kite responds, and what happens to the direction of your board. Take your time and feel what happens.

Now you are ready for the foolproof way to go upwind.

1). Get up and make sure you are plaining and moving fast enough.

2). Look upwind. And turn your chest in that direction to point upwind.

3). Then just shift your weight so that you feel as though you are squeezing the water out from between your feet and that is where the spray is coming from. (That is the mental image you want, most of the spray feeling as though its coming from between your feet. In actuality it wonít be, most of it will be coming from your backfoot, but the mental image and feeling is what we are shooting for.) When you get it right, it will feel right, AND it will make a delicious sound. You will know it when you do it.

And that is all there is to it, that is the only thing to think about, getting your weight correct and to mentally focus on pushing the water out from between your feet, and making the purring water sound, and everything else will line up.

Yes, it sounds weird.

But it works like magic.

Good luck, and enjoy.

[windhorny]

I disagree with the "enough speed" comment. You need to be planing obviously but in general you can go higher upwind if you slow things down a bit. Its all a power game and how well you know when to use the available power to either fall off and pick up speed or use the excess power to edge hard. It's a constant balance of not stalling your board out to keeping speed up just enough to stay on a plane. When there is wind going upwind is easier than going downwind. It's the light wind riding that takes the real skill.

[Rascal1000]

Windhorny: What you say is 100% correct. If you are going upwind at the tightest angle, you are not going all that fast relative to the water.

The reason I mention speed as being important is that beginners tend to suffer from the problem that they try to go up wind before they have enough speed. They rush. They get up, and immediately try head up wind, causing the underpowered kite to fly to the edge of the window, their backfoot sinks ... and they stall. Its better for them to get up, do a few pumps to get moving, and then turn upwind. By looking upwind, and shifting their weight to their backfoots.

Some beginners haven't figured out the effect of apparent wind, that if they are moving, their kite has more power at any given angle in the wind window. So get moving first, then think about going upwind.